Comment 1 by jteh on 2011-07-05 11:19
Note that we already report extra info when the user presses report focus (NVDA+tab) or report current navigator object (NVDA+numpad5). For example, we don't speak read-only for documents by default, but we do if you press NVDA+tab. Some of this additional info could be spoken here. This probably doesn't fit for radio group labels or cell info, though, as this info is not part of the current object but is rather part of ancestor objects.

We've been considering introducing a command to report the focus "context"; i.e. the ancestors of the focus. This would speak groupings, table cells, dialogs, etc.

Comment 2 by orcauser on 2011-07-05 11:44
Yes, indeed both nvda+tab and numpad5 are useful in what they do, but i see this request as part of the work that needs doing before we can proceed on #46 (speech verbosity levels)
Since the user still has access to needed information by pressing one shortcut key, even if they have minimal verbosity.

Thanks.

Comment 3 by jteh on 2011-07-05 11:50
To clarify, i was proposing that some of the additional info you request be spoken by NVDA+tab and NVDA+numpad5. I wasn't trying to suggest that the information already spoken is sufficient alone.

Comment 5 by orcauser on 2011-07-05 12:06
Adding information there is fine, it is the reduction of chattyness that is the goal.
The default should probably remain the same, but if the person selects 'brief', then they should get that, and any additional info should be provided through the keystrokes above.
to clarify, this ticket is simply about adding the information in the right place before removing it from elsewhere.

Thanks.

@jcsteh In #1648 (comment), you had mentioned that something of the like was being considered back then. Could you please update us with your present thoughts on this ticket?

Since then, the report location command (NVDA+numpadDelete/NVDA+delete) has been extended to report some context specific info where appropriate. That will probably be extended further still for various situations. I tend to think the report current object commands (NVDA+tab and NVDA+numpad5) plus the report location command are enough to cover various scenarios, but those scenarios should be addressed as separate cases. Closing.