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Default shortcut key to start NVDA does not work on Polish keyboards #2209
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Comment 1 by jteh on 2012-04-03 20:14 What about using a different key depending on the detected locale? That way, you can just document the required key in the User Guide. Explorer only allows use of control+alt shortcuts. Are there any that don't conflict? |
Comment 2 by pitermach (in reply to comment 1) on 2012-04-03 20:37
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Comment 3 by jteh on 2012-04-05 07:09 |
Comment 4 by pitermach (in reply to comment 3) on 2012-04-05 07:51
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Comment 5 by jteh on 2012-04-09 08:29 |
Comment 6 by orcauser on 2012-04-09 16:48 |
Comment 7 by jteh on 2012-04-18 02:52 Mesar, is there any reason against using gettext for this (as per comment:5)? |
Comment 8 by pitermach (in reply to comment 6) on 2012-04-18 09:33
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Comment 9 by pvagner on 2012-04-19 05:56 |
Comment 10 by jteh (in reply to comment 9) on 2012-04-19 05:59
Given this, would you localise the key for Slovak or not? If so, any idea what key you would use? |
Comment 11 by pvagner (in reply to comment 10) on 2012-04-19 09:40
I would probably keep it ctrl+alt+n because people aare used to it. Beginner computer users even don't know what a right brace is. But if I were forced to change it it'll change to ctrl+alt+a . |
Comment 12 by pitermach on 2012-04-19 14:23 |
Comment 13 by orcauser on 2012-04-19 14:52 |
Comment 14 by orcauser on 2012-04-19 15:00
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Comment 15 by jteh (in reply to comment 14) on 2012-04-19 23:24
That's true. However, some other keyboard commands will change as well depending on the locale, so this isn't a new situation. I'll grant starting NVDA is a pretty fundamental case though. This will of course be documented in the language specific User Guide.
You might not have been the person that installed NVDA, though; e.g. public access system. Replying to orcauser:
Actually, it won't; see below.
Maybe. However, there have always been some strings that are determined by the language used at install time, including all of the shortcut names in the Start menu. This would be no different.
No. This isn't possible. The shortcut is a system wide item, whereas the NVDA locale is a user setting. I'm happy to say wontfix if people decide this isn't ideal. I was just trying to provide a solution to the initial problem. |
Comment 16 by jteh (in reply to comment 12) on 2012-04-30 07:25
This can't be done. If we implement this, it will be determined based on the NVDA language (which defaults to the Windows locale). This seems fair enough, as the best we can do here is make things easy for the average novice user. Since no one appears to be entirely happy with this idea, I'm closing as wontfix. Please reopen if you can make a strong statement of support for the idea as proposed. |
Comment 18 by jteh on 2012-07-29 23:43 |
Comment 19 by jteh on 2012-07-30 00:19
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Comment 20 by grego on 2014-04-14 16:58 Having translatable NVDA default key, after updating it respectively in the user manual, would fix the situation. |
Comment 22 by jteh on 2014-05-07 00:48 |
Comment 23 by grego on 2014-05-07 19:31 |
Comment 24 by jteh on 2014-05-07 19:33 |
Comment 25 by grego (in reply to comment 24) on 2014-07-28 08:55 GZ: after short discussion on the Polish computer users list, few months ago, the shortcut alt+control+d is non-conflicting and acceptable (my preferred alt+ctrl+v is unfortunately used by Window-eyes for something). |
Comment 27 by James Teh <jamie@... on 2014-07-30 04:05
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Comment 28 by jteh on 2014-07-30 04:07 |
Comment 29 by grego (in reply to comment 28) on 2014-08-03 19:26 |
Comment 30 by James Teh <jamie@... on 2014-08-06 02:39
Changes:
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Comment 31 by jteh on 2014-08-06 02:40 |
In case someone has the same problem: I couldn't find the "Launch NVDA" shortcut in NVDA's keyboard settings window.
This is CTRL+ALT+N by default. I changed mine to CTRL+ALT+D per the suggestions above. |
Reported by pitermach on 2012-04-03 20:05
So, I’m really liking this new installer, and since it’s now in development, I’d like to make a small request.
The default shortcut key of NVDA’s desktop icon is CTRL+Alt+N, which interferes with the Polish ń letter.
To remove the issue, the Polish user guide has instructions on how to remove the shortcut key from the icon after installation.
Could the installer prompt for what key to use, rather than using the default? Window-Eyes does this and even though its shortcut doesn’t conflict with anything, the function exists if needed.
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