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NVDA should announce first whether a thread is opened or closed. #416

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nvaccessAuto opened this issue Jan 1, 2010 · 3 comments
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Reported by Hermann on 2009-09-16 13:15
When you sort your mails/news/feeds by thread, it is important to know,
whether a subject is a thread or a single news, and whether the thread is
opened or closed.
In Thunderbird, but perhaps also in other mail clients, NVDA does not
announce this when landing on a message in the messages list.
You can check out the thread status by activating "object position" in the
objects preferences. However: You hear this position announcement
everywhere, no matter if you want it or not; and moreover, it is announced
at the end. So you have to listen to a long line in the messages list in
order to hear whether you are on a thread and whether it is opened or
closed.
So NVDA should announce "thread" if it is one, "open" and "closed" or
"reduced" and "expanded".
Maybe this all belongs to the evergreen display hook, but perhaps the
developers can find a solution before this famous feature is implemented.

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Comment 1 by jteh on 2009-09-16 21:24
Threading in an email client isn't anything particularly special from an accessibility point of view; it is just a tree view, so let's generalise this to a tree view.

If you enable "Report object position information" (enabled by default) as you have done, you hear the level at the end of the item only if it hasn't changed from the lat item that was reported. However, if it changes, the level will be announced before the item. This way, you can quickly tell when a thread is expanded, as you will hear "level 2", etc. on messages inside the thread.

NVDA normally announces "expanded" or "collapsed" on tree view items, but again, this announcement occurs at the end of the item. This is normally expected behaviour; you normally don't want to hear the expanded or collapsed state before the item in tree views. Unfortunately, it looks like Thunderbird doesn't expose the expanded or collapsed state like it should; this is a bug in Thunderbird unless I'm missing something.

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Comment 2 by nvdakor on 2015-06-12 04:47
Hi,
Is this still the case with NVDA 2015.1 and latest Thunderbird releases? Thanks.

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No. This now works for me.

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