Opened 4 months ago

Closed 4 months ago

Last modified 2 weeks ago

#4399 closed enhancement (duplicate)

NVDA should allow move mouse with keyboard

Reported by: vgjh2005 Owned by:
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Description

Hi:
I've read ticket 1574. I want to reopen it, but I don't find the reopen radio button on the page. So, I recreate a ticket about it. I tried to use windows keyboard mouse. But the mouse is controlled difficultly. It is difficulty to set the movement distance based on different screen setting font setting theme setting etc. Then some laptops have not FN key to swich to use numpad keyboard. The screen layout is not the same in different situations. So I want to add keyboard mouse support. It is trouble to right click on a object. We have to move the review cursor to the focus then move the mouse to the review, press right click key at last.
Thanks!

Change History (13)

comment:1 Changed 4 months ago by nvdakor

  • Resolution set to duplicate
  • Status changed from new to closed

Hi,
I hgave reopened #1574, but I expect it to be closed again.

comment:2 Changed 4 months ago by jteh

It sounds like what you really want is to move the review cursor and then click the mouse. This is really not at all difficult. It's one extra keystroke to route the mouse to the review cursor.

comment:3 Changed 4 months ago by vgjh2005

Hi:
The movement speed of the mouse is controlled by two sliders. If one of these factors is different, and the speed settings also have to be different completely:
1.font size;
2.Screen resolution;
3.Mouse pointer;
4.Icon style;
for below reasons, Nobody can give a deciding values for those. However, we need a low vision person to help us to make the exact speed settings.
Mouse tracker for NVDA function is very very strong. Some objects that don't be found by using review cursor, we can use the mouse to find it by moving actual mouse. There are a software called format factory:https://onedrive.live.com/redir?resid=BE163853C2E97545%2112485
There is a list to select format to be generated.
Please comment below.
Thanks.

comment:4 Changed 4 months ago by vgjh2005

  • Resolution duplicate deleted
  • Status changed from closed to reopened

comment:5 Changed 4 months ago by jteh

If you can find it with the mouse and NVDA announces it, you can almost certainly find it with object navigation/review cursor. There are some rare cases where this isn't true, but they're just that: rare.

Anyway, any kind of pure mouse movement commands in NVDA would suffer from the same problems you describe. Screen size, etc. is always going to affect mouse movement.

Regardless, if this is what you actually want, this is definitely a duplicate.

comment:6 Changed 4 months ago by jteh

  • Resolution set to duplicate
  • Status changed from reopened to closed

comment:7 Changed 4 months ago by vgjh2005

Hi:
Pleas test the format factory. I have found lots of software that don't be arrived at all by using review cursor. There are also no key to display the content menu in review cursor. If you need example for that, I will upload it here.
Thanks!

comment:8 Changed 4 months ago by jteh

Right mouse clicks generally display context menus. Regardless, none of this changes the fact that if NVDA implements mouse movement keys, it won't solve any of the problems you have with Windows mouse keys. It'll just duplicate the same functionality and waste a huge number of keys we could use for other functions.

comment:9 Changed 4 months ago by vgjh2005

Hi:
Did you make test with formatFactory? For example, I add a avi file to the file list. I want to convert it to mp4 file. I have to select filetype mp4 in the format list. But I cannot do that with review cursor. But I use the mouse to move to it, and I could hear them(mp4, rmvb etc). If add keyboard mouse support, don't the problem will solve? Thanks!

comment:10 Changed 4 months ago by vgjh2005

Hi:
There are not FN key and Numpad key in some laptop. How to do for them to use windows keyboard mouse?
Thanks!

comment:11 Changed 2 weeks ago by vgjh2005

Hi:
NVDA cannot activate some controls that are especial
and NVDA don't support specially by pressing nvda+numpadenter.
For example, when using touch screen, if the control don't be activated by this command, users will have no idea to click it and will become trouble. Add mouse keyboard support will solve this problem easily.
Add a hotkey to switch between mouse and cursor. If this can be done, I think control will become more and more easier.
Thanks!

Last edited 2 weeks ago by vgjh2005 (previous) (diff)

comment:12 follow-up: Changed 2 weeks ago by jteh

As I've already pointed out, you can already route the mouse to and click these objects; desktop: NVDA+numpadMultiply then numpadMultiply. Mouse movement keys will not help here since what you want to do is already possible.

Note that we're looking at making NVDA+numpadEnter click if there is no action.

comment:13 in reply to: ↑ 12 Changed 2 weeks ago by vgjh2005

Replying to jteh:

As I've already pointed out, you can already route the mouse to and click these objects; desktop: NVDA+numpadMultiply then numpadMultiply. Mouse movement keys will not help here since what you want to do is already possible.

My trouble solution is that setting a touch gesture to route the mouse and set a touch gesture to left and right click. I think this isn't a good experience on touch screen.

Note that we're looking at making NVDA+numpadEnter click if there is no action.

Do you still remember tencentQQ? All control on it cannot use this action at all. You can open the software and find a control to perform this action. I think that this problem can be solved finally by adding some code, but however this problem will not be solved completely.
Thanks!

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