Comment 1 by bhavyashah on 2014-12-21 04:43
As a side note, I was opening a media file with VLC while reproducing this issue rather than only opening the program.
Also, as an alternative to the given steps to reproduce, try this:
Launch VLC Media player (latest stable version) playing a media file.
Press Alt + M for the Media submenu.
Press Esc to come out of the menu bar.
Press Alt + M again.
Press Esc again.
Follow the same procedure as mentioned above for other menus as well, for example Alt + L for the Playback submenu.
You will notice something strange in NVDA's behaviour.

Comment 2 by jteh on 2014-12-21 23:02
Please at least try to explain the behaviour. It saves a great deal of time and helps in triaging.

VLC uses QT and QT accessibility tends to be fairly buggy, so the chances of us being able to fix or work around anything are minimal.

Comment 3 by bhavyashah on 2014-12-22 16:36
Hi,
I'll try to describe the results.
NVDA keeps saying 'menu' and 'menu bar' and in some cases it says the actual submenu name, but in midway it breaks the speech of the actual submenu name and just says 'menu'.
Its a bit odd to understand, but well...
Also, I'll certainly, in the future, first report app specific issues to the app developers and then reach you all, sorry for the inconvenience.

Comment 4 by jteh on 2014-12-22 23:04
Reporting them to the app developer first isn't always the right course of action, as it is sometimes a deficiency in NVDA. It's sometimes difficult for users to know. If in doubt, feel free to file here first, as long as you're happy for us to ask you to consider filing it with the app.

Comment 5 by bhavyashah on 2014-12-23 13:33
Ok, thumbs up.

I can still reproduce this issue in VLC Media Player version 2.2.3 (although I took some time to comprehend what I meant by my rather vague bug report 🖌 ).
To elaborate somewhat, the problem is that when you are let's say on any item (provided it isn't a submenu in itself) of the Media submenu part of the menu bar of VLC, and you press the right or left arrow to move to the first item of the next or previous menu (Playback or Help respectively), the following happens:
Expected Result: Not sure. NVDA should ideally report the menu name followed by the menu item name, but only the latter would suffice as well.
Actual Result: NVDA starts to report the name of the menu but stutters midway because the speec is interrupted by 'menu'. In other words, when I press right arrow in the above example, NVDA says 'Playback' incompletely and then says 'unavailable' and then 'menu. NVDA speaks these individually with pauses akin to stuttering between them.
Additionally, this is not a VLC Media Player specific issue. I just replicated the same with Wordweb 8.0 in a similar manner, and I expect this to be the case with the menu bars of several other software.
This definitely is not the most earth-shattering or life-threatening of issues, but an annoyance I would at least request a quick investigation of, so as to understand the scope of this bug. @LeonarddeR

@javidominguez, @bhavyashah can you still reproduce this issue in the newest VLC version?

Hello,
I can reproduce the mentionned behavior in VLC Media Player 3.0.4 on Windows 10 version 1809.

I cannot reproduce this issue with NVDA 2023.2 and VLC media player version 3,0,18,0 or WordWeb Pro version 10.2.0.0. On arrowing left and right, the menu changes and NVDA speaks the menu item it moved to but not the menu itself. Maybe it'd be nice if NVDA reported the name of the menu it switched to, or maybe that is extraneous given the user has other ways of knowing that? I don't have strong feelings on that either way and that is a somewhat distinct question from the app-specific bug reported here. Feel free to close this ticket.

On arrowing left and right, the menu changes and NVDA speaks the menu item it moved to but not the menu itself.

This is exactly this issue, so it seems still reproducible. NvDA interupts speech when changing from a menu to another, so the reporting of the menu title is cut and the reporting of the focused menu item is prioritized.
Expected: NVDA should report the menu title when entering the menu with left or right arrow keys.

Closing as duplicate of #4278.