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Switch to eSpeak NG in NVDA distribution #5651
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Does anyone know what actually happened? Also, one of the main issues I hear about is that the US accent, erm is not the us accent for many people who live there. Presumably, the only way to get this sorted would be a complete rejig of the samples used. bglists@blueyonder.co.uk As further development of eSpeak from http://espeak/sourceforge.net seems to have stopped for one reason or another, a separate fork of eSpeak (eSpeak NG) was created by the community: NVDA should bundle eSpeak NG now as this is where active development is now happening. — |
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The latest espeak testing release (1.48.15) was on the 16th April 2015 (nearly 9 months ago); the official release is 1.48.04 released on the 6th March 2014. The last email to espeak-general by Jonathan Duddington was on the 23rd May 2015. Jonathan has been known to go for long periods between updates (e.g. 1.48.13 to 1.48.14 took 7 months). The updates tend to be minor, mostly consisting of language updates. It is not clear if anything has happened to Jonathan, or whether he intends to continue to update espeak. Since the 28th June 2010, I have been maintaining a mirror of espeak on GitHub with modifications to support building it on POSIX systems, keeping in step with espeak releases. This was light on source changes (primarily changes to build phoneme and intonation data from the command-line via espeakedit). Since the 10th December 2012, I have been using this to support an Android port of eSpeak on a separate branch, based on the original eyes-free port, incorporating many fixes and additional features. From the 4th October 2015 (6 months after the 1.48.15 release), I decided to deviate from the upstream espeak releases. Over that period, I fixed various memory and file leaks in the espeakedit code, incorporating language updates from others in the community and implementing support for SSML On the 8th December 2015, there was a discussion on the espeak-general mailing list about the lack of activity on espeak and the desire to see more activity on espeak. As part of that, I was voted as leading that effort and the espeak-ng project was born. My motivation with making it a proper fork was to make it clear that it is different to espeak and to allow Jonathan to update espeak in the future, should he wish to do so. Since that time, I have been making significant changes to the original espeak codebase to simplify it, clean it up, make it easier to read and make it easier to port to different systems. The intention is to remain API compatible with eSpeak, while adding new APIs for additional functionality (like the phoneme and intonation compilation APIs NVDA are using). Regarding the US accent, it is difficult to create a generalized accent that represents everyone in America (just like it is for a British accent to represent everyone in the UK). Thus, it uses features common to American accents in general, like those described by John Wells. The features MERRRY, MARRY and MARY are not merged in British English and some American accents, while other American accents merge different ones of those depending on the accent, although a complete merger is common among most American accents. Another difficulty is that the CMU Pronunciation Dictionary does not use a consistent accent (even among variants of the same word), so it is difficult to identify where the splits and mergers are. It would probably be useful to create different regional American accents, like the Birmingham/West Midlands UK accent ( |
There is something that could be looked into as well. With Hebrew, On 1/9/2016 5:44 PM, Reece H. Dunn wrote:
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Please join the eSpeak general mailing list on Sourceforge, and ask about this there. I am a member of that list, and there is a lot of active discussion on improvements. I think you'll get a better response there.
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How do I join that list? On 1/9/2016 11:20 PM, Laughingthunder wrote:
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How about including the Steph 1 and 2 variants by default in this version? |
Since we're moving to eSpeak NG and it now includes all the variants (rather than including them only in NVDA), you'd need to file this request with eSpeak NG. |
Has the transition happened? If so, I don't see much of a difference. On 2/16/2016 9:42 PM, JamaicanUser wrote:
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It's in next, but not master. It will be in master soon. If there's a
bug, file it against eSpeak NG; see above. But yeah, hoax is definitely
wrong. :)
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I have added the Steph voice variants to espeak-ng and have fixed words starting with 'ho' including hoax. |
Another thing for you. A word like "Nazarene", isn't correctly sounded. On 2/20/2016 6:00 AM, Reece H. Dunn wrote:
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Many thanks to @rhdunn for watching this issue and providing fixes. However, NVDA users, please note that this isn't the correct place to report eSpeak NG issues. Instead, please report them on the eSpeak NG GitHub issues page. Thanks! |
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Now, the Problem of ticket #5235 is back. I think, the new eSpeak NG is the cause. Can you repair this? |
As further development of eSpeak from http://espeak/sourceforge.net seems to have stopped for one reason or another, a separate fork of eSpeak (eSpeak NG) was created by the community:
http://www.github.com/espeak-ng/espeak-ng
NVDA should bundle eSpeak NG now as this is where active development is now happening.
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