Comment 1 by elliott94 on 2010-08-24 14:29
There you go, thought of another description. :)
Changes:
Changed title from "Allow Malwarebytes Anti-Malware's tab system to be available" to "Allow Malwarebytes Anti-Malware's tab system to be read"

Comment 2 by jteh on 2010-08-24 19:16
Can you please explain what you mean by "can be detected using object navigation"? If this is the case, why can't you activate the tabs? What about moving mouse to review and then clicking?

Comment 3 by elliott94 (in reply to comment 2) on 2010-08-24 20:25
Replying to jteh:

Can you please explain what you mean by "can be detected using object navigation"? If this is the case, why can't you activate the tabs? What about moving mouse to review and then clicking?

Unfortunately, even when using this command, NVDA is unable to activate that particular section of the screen, for some unknown reason.

Comment 4 by elliott94 on 2010-08-26 16:28
Changed ticket title and description to be more global; I've discovered, thanks to Brian, more issues apart from the tabbing system.
Again, as stated in the ennitial description, if you think this is beyond NVDA, I'll contact the Malwarebytes devs about accessibility.
Changes:
Changed title from "Allow Malwarebytes Anti-Malware's tab system to be read" to "Improve accessibility of Malwarebytes Anti-Malware"

Comment 5 by elliott94 on 2010-08-26 16:29
Sorry; added the word "NVDA" to the end of the ticket summary, to make the title sound more screen reader-spasific.
Changes:
Changed title from "Improve accessibility of Malwarebytes Anti-Malware" to "Improve accessibility of Malwarebytes Anti-Malware with NVDA"

Comment 6 by jteh on 2010-12-02 00:56
Changes:
Milestone changed from 2011.1 to None

Comment 7 by jteh on 2011-02-22 07:41
I can access the tab control just fine. When the program starts, I move to the next navigator object twice and then move to its first child to access the first tab. Each of these tabs can be clicked or even focused.

Comment 8 by briang1 on 2012-07-23 08:44
See also ticket #2549, which has been closed as a duplicate. In fairness, in the original version of the software, focussing and operating the needed tabs was very flaky. This is now a lot better but as noted still needs indirect operations, ie there is no tab order or normal operation of the tabs.
Also there was a time a while back when the lists were accessible to a point but this has now gone away again in the last two versions of the software. I also note however though that in the settings there is a prompt for update feature which allows you to get updates after x number of days when you run the software, and this feature does work in nvda.

You just need to use the method above to get to the settings tab in the first place, I belive its defaulted to 7 days.

So if the listings and functions of the list views could be made to work, then the program would be viable.

Comment 9 by briang1 on 2012-07-24 13:39
As pointed out in the other ticket, you can find out of what the software has found as after a scan a file is opened in notepad with the offending names in. This does not however allow you to do much, as the buttons are in the list view which appears blank to nvda.

Comment 10 by elliott94 (in reply to comment 9) on 2012-07-24 23:48
Replying to briang1:

As pointed out in the other ticket, you can find out of what the software has found as after a scan a file is opened in notepad with the offending names in. This does not however allow you to do much, as the buttons are in the list view which appears blank to nvda.

While the list isn't accessible, the detected objects can be read from the log, and then either ignored or removed; these two buttons are tabbable. However, this is far from a good solution; if Malwarebtes detected some false positives, it could take a while to recover them from the quarantine.

Comment 11 by nvdakor on 2014-10-13 21:23
Hi,
Update: supposedly, the latest MalwareBytes (2.03) is more screen reader friendly, but there are some issues when an NvDA user attempts to navigate around the program windw. Some of the issues observed include:

• When you tab around the window, NVDA announces "border". In fact, there is a border/layout window that contains the focused control, which NVDA thinks it has focus but in reality its child (the control itself) is. In other words, NVDA ifres gainFocus event on the border when in fact the child object should receive proper gain focus event notification.
• Scan results are laid out as a table which one can use arrow keys to move around, much like Windows Explorer's folders list in newer versions of Windows. The actions list is now a combo which you need to use Alt+down arrow to open, but the tooltip says "down arrow" which is incorrect.
• In lists such as scan progress and scan types, due to the fact that scan type is both the name and the value for the scan type, NVDA announces both. One can try suppressing event_changeValue on these items, but it's a hack - a better implementation would have been for MalwareBytes devs to stick to name only, which is cleaner and would solve double announcmenet problems in other screen readers (if that's the case).
• The top level window has a role of application. Although this makes sense for newer style of apps, this isn't a good thing to see/hear from desktop apps. This causes NVDA to announce application.description, which is quite annoying.
  Overall, thanks to newer QT Widgets that MalwareBytes is using, screen reader accessibility has improved, but it's not quite there yet.
  As for what we can do from now: a short term solution would be an app module for MalwareBytes that implements some focus and announcement hacks for latest MalwareBytes. A long term solution would be letting MalwareBytes developers become aware of how screen readers treats focus changes and to reduce clutter by suppressing border containers from receiving focus and fixing some issues, namely navigating scan results and sticking to name only for list items.
  Thanks.

CC @josephsl @elliott94 @jcsteh @Brian1Gaff

See #4216 for additional information on this issue.

This is not reproducible anymore, I am using the newest malware Bytes and it works as expected.

Thank you @Adriani90. Closing as worksforme